"I thought, this is my dream job"

There's no such thing as a boring person David Bramwell, citing Quentin Crisp

In this conversation about conversation, the writer and performer David Bramwell remembers speaking with somebody rightly regarded as a world expert on the art of conversation – and being gravely disappointed.

Hearing David tell this story, and laughing with him about it, I was reminded of a time when too I badly let myself down in conversation – exploding angrily at somebody – as I explain in the video, along with what happened next.

This is one of the things I love about conversations about conversation: we hear each other's stories, and recognise ourselves in them. I hope you might recognise something too.